Comments on: Euan Semple - 1, Jakob Neilsen - irrelevant http://www.acidlabs.org/2007/05/14/euan-semple-1-jakob-neilsen-irrelevant/ strategies, tools and processes to empower knowledge workers Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:48:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Andrew Boyd http://www.acidlabs.org/2007/05/14/euan-semple-1-jakob-neilsen-irrelevant/#comment-2100 Andrew Boyd Tue, 15 May 2007 19:46:32 +0000 http://dev.acidlabs.org/2007/05/14/euan-semple-1-jakob-neilsen-irrelevant/#comment-2100 Steve, there's been a lot of discussion on SIGIA-L on this - my take on participation level was this: "Apropos participation as a percentage of total population: when youwrite for some external publication, who are you writing for? Is it the 95% of the people who don't get your work and never will, or is it the 5% or less who do, or at least get it enough to pay your salary and act as your peers? This isn't elitism, it is just the way it is - content without context is piffle, and only those with context (be it IA or stamp collecting) will find it valuable." I agree with Euan and yourself. We do owe Jakob, but sometimes he says dumb things - I like to compare him to the uncle who we all love dearly but who sometimes breaks wind at the dinner table :) Cheers, Andrew Steve,

there’s been a lot of discussion on SIGIA-L on this - my take on participation level was this:

“Apropos participation as a percentage of total population: when youwrite for some external publication, who are you writing for? Is it the 95% of the people who don’t get your work and never will, or is it the 5% or less who do, or at least get it enough to pay your salary and act as your peers? This isn’t elitism, it is just the way it is - content without context is piffle, and only those with context (be it IA or stamp collecting) will find it valuable.”

I agree with Euan and yourself. We do owe Jakob, but sometimes he says dumb things - I like to compare him to the uncle who we all love dearly but who sometimes breaks wind at the dinner table :)
Cheers, Andrew

]]> By: magia3e http://www.acidlabs.org/2007/05/14/euan-semple-1-jakob-neilsen-irrelevant/#comment-2101 magia3e Mon, 14 May 2007 23:45:43 +0000 http://dev.acidlabs.org/2007/05/14/euan-semple-1-jakob-neilsen-irrelevant/#comment-2101 I blogged recently on <a href="http://magia3e.wordpress.com/2007/05/11/the-taxonomy-of-social-computing/" rel="nofollow">Li's demographic taxonomy of users of social computing</a>. While perhaps we can see Nielsen's in-and-use-and-leave types as <em>spectators</em>, it's certainly not the whole picture of what all user types want to do. I do think Nielsen's point that the web is just a tool, though, is essentially correct. The social web provides a means of being social - a tool for communicating, and sharing. Socialisation itself, though, and not the web, is the goal. M I blogged recently on Li’s demographic taxonomy of users of social computing. While perhaps we can see Nielsen’s in-and-use-and-leave types as spectators, it’s certainly not the whole picture of what all user types want to do.

I do think Nielsen’s point that the web is just a tool, though, is essentially correct. The social web provides a means of being social - a tool for communicating, and sharing. Socialisation itself, though, and not the web, is the goal. M

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